Ride_on wrote: Volvosneverdie-Evil scientists in films are not normally peer reviewed and their results not normally replicated, unlike respected scientists. This is partly the point and why I do tent to trust them, and this is what it comes down to, there is lots of propaganda as I have explained above. It very easy for people to get sucked into this. But then this is all a bit like terrorism the just cause is somewhat in the eye of the beholder, except in this case there is an absolute truth. As I have said before it comes down believing in an industry design to find the truth, or one designed to make as money as possible.

No normal individuals can have a useful argument about the science.

Ride_on wrote: I'm not trying to put words in your mouth I am merely summarising what I think you are saying, and your text is all we have to go on. If you don't want to be judged on it then don't write it. To be honest it is hard to figure your reasoning out because you have so many reasons to not believe then you finish with ..'why should we bother since others are not going to do enough to make a difference'. Solutions are irrelevant if you don't believe in it, contributing or not when others may or may not follow is a whole other discussion.

Anyway I have to say I am not an expert on the IPCC corruption you mention, have you any reason why we should believe you, do you know someone in the IPCC, or are you just recanting news articles you have read. Simply I happen to think the CO2 must affect the atmosphere because of basic physics, the amount is increasing rapidly (or is that conspiracy driven errors too?) due to mans activities. It is only the level of effect that is up for debate. The so called negative feedbacks do not seem to be controlling the CO2 level.

Volvosneverdie-Evil scientists in films are not normally peer reviewed and their results not normally replicated, unlike respected scientists. This is partly the point and why I do tent to trust them, and this is what it comes down to, there is lots of propaganda as I have explained above. It very easy for people to get sucked into this. But then this is all a bit like terrorism the just cause is somewhat in the eye of the beholder, except in this case there is an absolute truth. As I have said before it comes down believing in an industry design to find the truth, or one designed to make as money as possible. No normal individuals can have a useful argument about the science.

The only place I do not trust science is in areas of morality, for which it has little answers. Religion would be useful for this if it just weren't so damned religious.

sven360 wrote:CO2 this CO2 that.

All a load of mumbo jumbo to this simpleton.

Act on CO2-do me a favour-the Chinese are extinguishing coal seams that have been burning for three centuries and I'm supposed to beat mysel' up when one of the little Sven's leaves the bathroom light on

Are my little yellow friends putting out the fires to help me or the rest of the planet????
Erm ..............No.They're doing it to preserve their fossil fuel reserves so they can continue manufacturing plastic tat that you get free with a dog turd before tossing on the tip.
Where I come from worrying about such nonsense is akin to urinating into a strong headwind.

Only plus point to all this is the fish are getting bigger.
In the words of Chief Brody,"We're gonna need a bigger boat."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... nster.html

jtbo wrote:I can say only one thing, if rapid global warming is true, it means this for us:

volvodspec wrote: woow i do like them to be right about this part