Modding AMR's 300

Post by **germ** » 27 Feb 2007 02:46 am

i read every thing you said and agrree but about the 15km/h thing i guess i mainly do it to piss the french off coz they will try and over take you doing a 160km/m just as much as 15km/h and in the worst places example hills with no in front view and they tail gate and leave a fag paper space in between

and i would prefere that they would over take me slowly in dangerous places than fast. and another anoying thing they over take then slow right down in front of you

EXTREAMLY DANGEROUS DRIVERS BECAREFULL.

Cheers
will

Post by **petefarrell360** » 27 Feb 2007 07:24 pm

Yeah definitely agree on the last part Will. I've been over taken in a 30 mph zone, doing 30 mph, by a van doing about 50, which then on the national speed limit road did 35 mph for 2 miles! Probably becuase in the lit up village they could see where they were going! I saw a prime example of a lack of speed today annoying people, an elderly lady negociating a roundabout, at what could be described as less than a crawling pace...... she'd never hurt anyone if she did hit them as she was going so slow, but her lack of confidence and spacial awareness and control was obvious. Also people were more likely to do silly things to either get infront of her, or overtake her!

Pete

Post by **A M R** » 27 Feb 2007 07:48 pm

personally, i think all over 60's should be reassessed in their ability to drive, with eyesight tests as well.

lol i sense a lot of hatred coming from this...

Post by **foggyjames** » 27 Feb 2007 07:52 pm

I think a compulsory test every 10 years would be more like it. The state of our driver training is terrible (albeit still better than most countries!).

cheers

James

Post by **redline** » 27 Feb 2007 08:48 pm

A M R wrote:personally, i think all over 60's should be reassessed in their ability to drive, with eyesight tests as well.

lol i sense a lot of hatred coming from this...

dont worry I still have 13 years before I have to worry ,
then I will come and find you and hit you with my zimmer frame lol

Post by MJ » 27 Feb 2007 08:54 pm

Say what you like AMR, but you'll be old sometime, and will you want to be bothered with taking another test...

I agree there are a lot of bad drivers out there who need taking off the road, but regular compulsory tests sounds far too nanny state to me. Sure we all get bad habits, but they aren't nesesarily dangerous.

Say you pass your test at 20, and drive until your almost 80, that's 6 tests you'd have to do. Think about the cost, and the time people would waste from jobs refreshing skills, and doing the test. It would also make people think about strategy a lot more when thinking about doing the test. I took the test at 17, as I knew that once I passed I'd be set for life, and wouldn't have to worry about it when I was at uni, or in a job or anything. If there was the 10 year thing I may have considered leaving the test for a few years to put back the next one...

What worries me is that some people suggest that learning to drive should be more structured, as if it should all de done by driving instructors. Since cars were first invented, driving has been a skill passed from father to son, or mother to daughter or what ever, and it worked for them.

My Granddad taught my dad to drive, and my dad taught me to drive (well mum and dad

). It's one of the last father son bonding activities left. It's also a heck of a lot cheaper than driving instructors, as many of the journeys would have been made anyway, making them effectively free.

Driving is one of the last freedoms, and I feel quite passionate about

Post by **germ** » 27 Feb 2007 09:27 pm

my dad is 60 he drives real cool he had a heart attack a couple of years ago with no damage to his heart as it was treated imidiatly he runs like a new machine and another wierd thing is he doesent have grey hair (AND HE DOESENT COLOUR IT!) but i think i know his secret....since i was a baby he has always said come and massage my head like a good baby lol
and to only a little while ago i stoped doing this my sister did it to before and it make the blood in the head circulate better which means the hair will not starve of vital things thuse resulting in healthy,silky hair

now that will be £50 from all of you for this ground breaking secret

Cheers
will

Post by **redline** » 27 Feb 2007 09:31 pm

I still have a full head of hair and its all my own

my secret is I have never brushed or combed it as i believe that strains the roots ( thats my excuse , it works and I am sticking to it )

Post by **germ** » 27 Feb 2007 09:35 pm

my dad tought me to drive too and my sister and my mum

and some other people that i dont know,he isnt an instuter though.

i agree its a father son thing.

and driving is somthing i like doing... i dont like the sound of putting people in prison for driving for no reason .
thats harsh and the most injoyable drives are the ones where you go to "drive" for no reason other than that.

Cheers
will

Post by **redline** » 27 Feb 2007 09:45 pm

I actually taught my mum , one of my ex fiancees, my ex wife and my son to drive, they all passed first time as well.

Post by **IvanS.** » 27 Feb 2007 11:38 pm

MJ is right but I'll add something.

I do no on which car do people take driving test, but if you got another car for yourself, they should go on the same driving test pool to practise with their own car. Whit this they got some knowledge about it's size, advantages and disadvantages, how to park them on the " nose" and backward ( oh man i do hate when smb park and take two or three parking slots

). By doing these they'll know their car better and have less fear on the road.

As Pete said, for the fast overtaking there's no excuse...but going too slow in high speed zone...that's out of question.
Just going solo, at the speed i like, taking second line, as for others, overtake me from the third line or get behind. It's really annoying when smb is just overtake at high speed and cut you when you least expect, usually from the right side.

Owww....i do wear glasses and have control in 5 year's time for driving test....

My mom got 10 years till next check because she told doctor if she ever got in the car instead of my dad ( note- my mom is passive driver...she drove 3 years ago at the parking in Ulcinj, but never in "public". ) because he never get out of the car. Than my dad got to the same doctor and got 3 years of driving until next check because of ^^ above my mom said.

Imagine when he found out....

BTW My friend was taught to drive by his dad and several months ago he turned the car well...but on the roof

Post by **foggyjames** » 28 Feb 2007 01:16 am

Ok, I take the point about the logistics of the 10 year tests. I propose an alternative. I'm paid by the state to drive around with a team of crack snipers shooting anyone who in my opinion is driving like a tool. Sound fair?

Oh, and I'd authorise the taking out of anyone in a Mitsubishi Warrior, Nissan Navara, etc, on principle. And SteveP, if my fun was interrupted by the sound of prog rock

cheers

James

Post by **Chris_C** » 28 Feb 2007 01:55 am

I am fully behind tests every 10 years... and more harsh tests at that. Driving training in this country is shocking, I know it's better than other countries, but thats like says a pug is better than a citreon, they are both still French ffs.

Instigate a stronger, more effective and more detailed driving training program, and there would be less accidents, as less need for speed cameras.

As to the hassle of taking a test every few years, I have to take more refresher courses than that for using machines in workshops, (including soldering irons in some places ffs) which is the more dangerous piece of kit. A 12hour slot out of 10 years is 1/7300th of the time, of which you'll spend more in traffic jams caused by uncontrolled vehicles anyway.

There is no part of it that doesn't make sense, apart from people knowing they wouldn't pass again (I know I wouldn't...) And saying you wouldn't take the test for a few years MJ, those of us who passed so we could actually drive a car I'm sure would still have done the test at 17

Post by **foggyjames** » 28 Feb 2007 03:32 am

As you could probably tell...I couldn't be bothered with a proper reply earlier...but a big fat +1 to what Chris just said very concisely there!

cheers

James

Post by **Nick C** » 28 Feb 2007 11:11 am

foggyjames wrote:Ok, I take the point about the logistics of the 10 year tests. I propose an alternative. I'm paid by the state to drive around with a team of crack snipers shooting anyone who in my opinion is driving like a tool. Sound fair?

Oh, and I'd authorise the taking out of anyone in a Mitsubishi Warrior, Nissan Navara, etc, on principle. And SteveP, if my fun was interrupted by the sound of prog rock

Replace you with me in the above statement and I'd fully agree

I'd also take out anyone with non-standard OTT bodykits, lexus rear lights, ICE you can hear from the other side of the motorway, etc....

And I can't see a problem in having refresher tests as long as they are done properly, and not another government hash-up like most things they do (like the new Junior Doctor recruitment process for example...)