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Reduce steering turns

Posted: 28 Nov 2005 03:42 pm
by 340cbr
I'd like to reduce the number of turns from top to top the steering, cause when i'm "sliding" I need to do many turns in the steering whell .

Is there any way to do the direction more direct?


Thanks

Posted: 28 Nov 2005 04:28 pm
by jtbo
I have heard rumours about extending steering rack, but I have no idea how to do it.

I have not found any MOT legal way, of course what can't be seen does not exists ;)

I would like to have 2,5 turns, get steering wheel 10cm closer to me and 2-3cm up, then it would be perfect :)

But I think that 50 euros is not enough large budget? :P

Posted: 28 Nov 2005 04:37 pm
by 5lab
you can fit a fast rack out of (i believe) a tabolt or something.. janitor had one on his racer (do a search on this forum to find details)

Posted: 28 Nov 2005 06:00 pm
by Bilbo
yeah its a quick rack from a talbot sunbeam, modified to fit.
if you have the clearance between your legs and bottom of wheel,maybe put a slightly bigger steering wheel on !?

Posted: 28 Nov 2005 06:13 pm
by jtbo
Bilbo wrote:yeah its a quick rack from a talbot sunbeam, modified to fit.
if you have the clearance between your legs and bottom of wheel,maybe put a slightly bigger steering wheel on !?
Smaller wheel will make it faster and heavier, bigger wheel make steering slower and lighter.

Posted: 28 Nov 2005 08:43 pm
by pettaw
If you've got manual steering, fit PAS. I've never done it but apparently you need the column and rack from a 360 and the pump from a 440. Oh and a large hammer to distort the exhaust so there's space :P

Posted: 28 Nov 2005 10:27 pm
by volvorsport
well , you can re drill the steering arms , so you get more movement at the wheel for the same steering wheel movement , or you could fit a steering reducer , which is a small gearbox that goes on the input spline of the steering rack .

or youcould fit a high ratio steering rack , from another car , a talbot sunbeam seems ideal for the track width . Fords are very popular , but make sure you get a rack which follows the same principle , either in front or behind the axle centreline - otherwise you may find the wheels turn the wrong way !!!

the steering reducers are available from summit racing in the USA .

Posted: 30 Nov 2005 09:02 pm
by foggyjames
PAS for a 300 is about 2 3/4 turns lock-to-lock.

Having driven Nessy now, I can confirm that a PAS 300 has a MUCH bigger turning circle than a manual one!

cheers

James

Posted: 30 Nov 2005 09:38 pm
by classicswede
BOO to PAS :P


Dai

Posted: 30 Nov 2005 09:45 pm
by 340GLT
Hmm do i put PAS on with the new engine then? Decision decisions......
Cheers Adam

Posted: 01 Dec 2005 12:25 am
by redline
my foggy has pas ,
hmmmm do I scrap or do I save ? sm14

Posted: 01 Dec 2005 01:16 am
by Chris_C
PAS is a much larger turning circle, I hardly ever have to 3 point Kar (mainly cos I use the steer from teh rear principle... but hey) but for parking, and cornish "I'm hitting both my wing mirrors on the hedges/houses/cows on this lane at the same time" roads its the best thing ever. And it's got feeling, which is more than can be said for 400 racks (well, the mk2 I've driven that is)

Posted: 01 Dec 2005 02:13 am
by foggyjames
That 360 is far too nice to scrap (from what I've seen so far). Didn't "360" want to buy? I'm pretty certain it just needs filling backwards with petrol, starting at the carb. And I know all about that... sm56

cheers

James

Posted: 01 Dec 2005 04:39 am
by pettaw
1.4s have a tighter turning circle anyway. Specs sheets say nothing about PAS vs non-PAS. According to the green book, 1.7s and 2.0s all have identical turning circles.

Posted: 01 Dec 2005 04:43 am
by foggyjames
Having driven Nessy at the weekend, there's a huge difference. Yet again we missed the chance to try PAS 360 vs non-PAS 360....d'oh!

cheers

James