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Posted: 19 Sep 2008 10:55 pm
by pills
Evening

i have asked about what engine to go into my 340 later on this/next year, but i want to make her a bit tail happy, seen the mods for the rear shocks deffinately going to do that, lowering blocks/springs,

heard about welding the diff? whats peoples opinions on this, also has any done it? is there a guide to doing it?

cheers
lads

Posted: 20 Sep 2008 06:21 pm
by filthyjohn
If you want to do it on the cheap, just put the worst tyres you can on the back, pump them up to 45psi and wait for rain. Lowering mine helped a lot, but a bucket seat is possibly the best single upgrade for doing skids, as you won't be falling about the cabin. :lol:
I only kick it out in the wet really, partly mechanical sympathy and partly because you need SERIOUS commitment in the dry with a 1.4 :roll:
Welding the diff will make things a lot easier.

Posted: 20 Sep 2008 09:00 pm
by garth
I concur. 1.4 dry drifting is mega hard, in the wet slam 45+ psi in and a good boot will get you sideways.

Posted: 21 Sep 2008 07:29 pm
by Nikdev
Just weld the diff! :D

Posted: 21 Sep 2008 11:07 pm
by pills
okies, well at the scrap yard near me, has a spare 2dr 340, goona pikey a few parts so gonna nick the rear diff/gear box?

what do i need to weld and weld what to what?? any faqs?

liam

Posted: 21 Sep 2008 11:19 pm
by kaos
you people obviosuly arnt trying hard enough :roll:

dry drifiting 1.4's is easy

watch the revs:D

2nd and 1st best gears to use and round abouts.

Posted: 22 Sep 2008 12:09 am
by 340GLT
kaos wrote:
dry drifiting 1.4's is easy
Define drifting, making it lose the back end is not the same as holding it there. So unless its either wet, on 155 tyres or over inflation or a combination of them all then 1.4s dont dry drift with an open diff on tarmac......

Posted: 22 Sep 2008 09:44 am
by Chris_C
Or if you are going slow enough just spinning the inside wheel ;) Big commitment needed.

Should be some diff welding guides around the intertrons I'd imagine, or a search on here, people have certainly posted pics of it

Posted: 22 Sep 2008 11:31 am
by garth
I try to flickit left then clutch kick right, sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't

Posted: 22 Sep 2008 06:42 pm
by kaos
bit of both adam.

but then it could be my roads down here being greesy,

I know i have a heavy right foot, and that could play a part in it all.

it could be any factors end of the day.

Posted: 22 Sep 2008 06:49 pm
by garth
True, power is nothing without control and all that.

Posted: 22 Sep 2008 07:12 pm
by Jason B
pills wrote:okies, well at the scrap yard near me, has a spare 2dr 340, goona pikey a few parts so gonna nick the rear diff/gear box?

what do i need to weld and weld what to what?? any faqs?

liam
If you really want to weld your diff then you need to weld the spider gears in the middle together, NOT the ring and pinion!. However, you'll need a really high powered welder if you want it to hold for any decent length of time. Also, the gears retain a fair bit of oil which is bad news if you want to get a decent weld without it bubbling up everywhere and putting lots of impurities in. In short, unless you have a decent 180A+ mig and are fairly competant, then I would get someone who knows what they're doing as its pointless making a mess of a perfectly good diff only to learn you aren't able to do it.

Posted: 22 Sep 2008 08:23 pm
by kaos
it's worth clearing it out completly anyway a nice parrafin bath and a quick check over should see away all the oil as well as letting you know the state of play with the actual gears themself.

Posted: 22 Sep 2008 09:57 pm
by pills
sweet ill grab a the diff out of the scrap one near me,
and weld it up myself. and so use one for the road and one for the track/ring
otherwise its wait for the rain, stiffer shocks, lower it, and pump the tyre full of air.


liam

Posted: 22 Sep 2008 10:05 pm
by !skelp!
sure there is a guide how to weld diffs on www.trampdrift.co.uk

had mine welded on my 360 and my 340, makes getting the back end out much more predictable . . .


probably wont be able to drift a 1.4 340 that well in the dry, unless its on nice loose ground, but in the wet you should be able to get some sideways action no probs !

go for it matey