V360 electrical problem - now with video
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V360 electrical problem - now with video
My cars really are letting me down ATM ...
Tried to start my 360 this morning - no luck, the starter didn't even turn over. Just a "gzzzzzzz" noise from behind the dashboard. What could that be? It was particularly cold this morning ...
Ever since we had the dashboard out for the AC, there's been a similar buzzing sound every time I use the indicators - maybe there's s loose connection somewhere?
Cheers
Tom
Tried to start my 360 this morning - no luck, the starter didn't even turn over. Just a "gzzzzzzz" noise from behind the dashboard. What could that be? It was particularly cold this morning ...
Ever since we had the dashboard out for the AC, there's been a similar buzzing sound every time I use the indicators - maybe there's s loose connection somewhere?
Cheers
Tom
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343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988
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Re: V360 non-starting - electrical problem?
OK, I've narrowed it down a little bit, the buzzing noise comes as soon as I turn on the ignition to position 1. Also when I turn on the warning lamps (which don't go on). Turning the headlights on, I can hear a "clack" from a relay somewhere, but they're otherwise dead. I've removed the panel underneath the indicator stalks and have wobbled everything in sight, but to no effect ...
As soon as I find my camera I'll see if I can put up a video on YouTube, maybe that'll ring a few bells ...
EDIT: just had another go. After I blipped the horn, it all worked again. Weird ... and worrying
EDIT2: it's at it again
Vid to follow ...
Tom
As soon as I find my camera I'll see if I can put up a video on YouTube, maybe that'll ring a few bells ...
EDIT: just had another go. After I blipped the horn, it all worked again. Weird ... and worrying
EDIT2: it's at it again
Tom
343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988
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Re: V360 non-starting - electrical problem?
trabitom99 wrote:
EDIT: just had another go. After I blipped the horn, it all worked again. Weird ... and worrying
EDIT2: it's at it againVid to follow ...
Tom
Sorry Tom, but thats funny.
there fixed..... wah! broke again.
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Re: V360 electrical problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaYqVM5GCmo
the interior light has packed in by now too ... Buzzing when you open the door.

Tom
the interior light has packed in by now too ... Buzzing when you open the door.
Note, the horn trick didn't work the second timevolvosneverdie wrote:![]()
Sorry Tom, but thats funny.
there fixed..... wah! broke again.
Tom
343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988
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Re: V360 electrical problem - now with video
you have a loose ground connection!
will probably be that plug beneath the dash under the fusebox; while you're there check if the 3 big connectors are connected properly
the rattle is a relay constantly switching on/off
will probably be that plug beneath the dash under the fusebox; while you're there check if the 3 big connectors are connected properly
the rattle is a relay constantly switching on/off
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Re: V360 electrical problem - now with video
Thanks Anjo, I wobbled all those plugs just now but it didn't help ...
Since we put the dash back, after fitting the AC, I've been getting a similar sound when indicating. Looks like the dash will have to come out again to find the bad connection.
What's the best way to go about looking for a bad earth?
#1 buy a multimeter
#2 remove the dash
#3 .... ?
Cheers
Tom
Since we put the dash back, after fitting the AC, I've been getting a similar sound when indicating. Looks like the dash will have to come out again to find the bad connection.
What's the best way to go about looking for a bad earth?
#1 buy a multimeter
#2 remove the dash
#3 .... ?
Cheers
Tom
343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988
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Re: V360 electrical problem - now with video
just read the startpost again...
have you tried another battery??
a machine-gun-rattling relay can be caused by a bad ground connection, or a too low switching voltage
too low switching voltage (or overall voltage) can also be caused by a loose battery connection
have you tried another battery??
a machine-gun-rattling relay can be caused by a bad ground connection, or a too low switching voltage
too low switching voltage (or overall voltage) can also be caused by a loose battery connection
Re: V360 electrical problem - now with video
I had nearly an identical problem with my car laid up for a long period, + maybe me fiddling. Was caused by a loose earth bolt on the strap beside the battery tray.
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Re: V360 electrical problem - now with video
The connections to the battery seemed tight enough, and the battery's only a year old, so I don't really expect problems there ...
Still, I've removed it, and am giving it a few hours charge, certainly won't do it any harm now winter's coming
Tom
Still, I've removed it, and am giving it a few hours charge, certainly won't do it any harm now winter's coming
Tom
343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988
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Re: V360 electrical problem - now with video
even if battery is only a year old a faulty alternator or something like that is still possible
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Re: V360 electrical problem - now with video
Hm, it wasn't the battery unfortunately ... I'll have to delve a bit deeper I think ...
Tom
Tom
343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988
Re: V360 electrical problem - now with video
Tom I'll bet its the earth connection to the fusebox under the dashboard or the three multiplugs underneath. Being LHD it'll be underneath the glovebox side so much easier to get to than a RHD car
Remove the panel underneath the glovebox and if you imagine where the fusebox screws into the firewall. On the other side, inside the car, are the three plugs that plug into the back of it, and also a large earth bar. Pull those out and firmly push them back in again. Give that a try, and if not then you'll have to pull them out, put contact cleaner on and push them back in again but normally just pulling and pushing back is enough to clean up.
Come back to us if that doesn't work.
Come back to us if that doesn't work.
Re: V360 electrical problem - now with video
I'd put money on this earth connection too.pettaw wrote:Tom I'll bet its the earth connection to the fusebox under the dashboard or the three multiplugs underneath.
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'03 S60 D5 SE, '91 (J) MX5, 1954 Cyclemaster
Ex:
'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast
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Re: V360 electrical problem - now with video
Well, I did give them a good wiggle! I'll pull them out completely this evening and see how it goes.
Thanks for all your comments guys, three V300 fails in two weeks are beginning to knock my confidence
Tom
Thanks for all your comments guys, three V300 fails in two weeks are beginning to knock my confidence
Tom
343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988
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Re: V360 electrical problem - now with video
OK working again for now!
Cleaned these up with contact cleaner and no luck:


... and then had a go at this rusty battery earth cable:

... and it started! Thanks again for all your help
Tom
Cleaned these up with contact cleaner and no luck:


... and then had a go at this rusty battery earth cable:

... and it started! Thanks again for all your help
Tom
343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988
