Problems with window wiring

Post by **redline** » 09 Sep 2005 01:36 pm

are cthe spades into the main loom for live and earth Adam , If so where are they connected under the dash

Post by **340GLT** » 09 Sep 2005 01:41 pm

Right its all sorted now mate!!!
Basically you have two options, firstly i would check inside your door to see if the door loom has the factory connectors for the leccy windows!! Inside the door it will be two spades and under the dash its a white block connector. If you do have these it will make the job very easy!!! However, if you dont, the two options you have are.
1) Run two cables into the door from under the dash. (Not very easy but is possible using some welding rod to poke wires through) or
2) Get the door loom from a car that has leccy windows!!! If you do it this way the only two wires you have to join other than on block connectors are the speaker cables, this is because they are part of the radio loom which is part of the main loom, anyway!!!

This is a pic of the complete loom!!!

If you find this connection, this is the power source for the leccy windows!! Disconnect this and follow the wires!!

You can separate this part of the leccy windows loom without cuting anything!!!
If you are going for option one this is all you need!!!

This is the drivers door loom, if you are using option two this is what you will need also, along with passenger side!!! Note cut speaker cable and two plugs for the central locking switch!!

The passenger loom same as drivers loom bar plugs on central locking!!!

Right i hope this has helped mate!!!!
Oh when you have it up and running a nice upgrade is these 440 switches, will just sit in the standard position but are permanantly illuminated so you can see the switches in the dark!!!! lol

Cheers Adam

Post by **340GLT** » 09 Sep 2005 01:43 pm

Yeh they are mick They are right up in the footwell, towards where they plug into the back of the fuse box!!!! Earth is brown and live is black with a red tracer!!!
Cheers Adam

Post by **redline** » 09 Sep 2005 01:50 pm

cheers m8, seems a lot easier than I first thought , I have the switches and a partial loom just need the mechanisms now

Post by **340GLT** » 09 Sep 2005 01:52 pm

If you can get hold of mechanisms cheap with dud motors, go for them as you can change the motor part of the mech whilst in the door!!!!
Its only two torx screws!!!
Put it this way i had that 440 panel 1 motor and the loom for £8

Cheers Adam

Post by **redline** » 09 Sep 2005 02:33 pm

thanks for that Adam, just had a grope (Oh missus no !!!) under the dash and found the wires neatly taped up , couldnt spot any spare wires going to the doors though. Its to hot to work on cars today anyway LOL

Post by **340GLT** » 09 Sep 2005 02:37 pm

No probs mate!!! I'm fittin the loom and two replacement doors to the blueline later!!! Should be a challenge!!! I can see it being a VERY late night somehow!!! Especially as i cant get into the garage till nearly 6pm!!!

Cheers Adam

Post by **RandomHero** » 09 Sep 2005 03:40 pm

Thanks Adam! That was what i was looking for. I'm going to test it in a minute. The black-red and brown wires were already under the dash.

Post by **RandomHero** » 09 Sep 2005 06:30 pm

The wires work so far with the mechanism, it moves smooth and properly

. But it started to rain !@#$! so i couldn't continue building everything in the door....

Post by **RandomHero** » 10 Sep 2005 07:40 pm

Today i managed to get everything in the doors. Pretty easy job. Wired it up and fired it up! So both windows work perfectly. Thanks for all the tips and tricks mates!

Cheers

Post by **redline** » 10 Sep 2005 09:53 pm

can you give us a run through of how to replace the mechanism in the doors please

Post by **340GLT** » 11 Sep 2005 12:02 am

Easy mick, drop the window right to the bottom and then you can get to two 8mm nuts on the bottom of the window mech undo these and pull window out the inside, side of the door.
Then undo all remaining screw, all phillips heads.
To put the leccy mech in you need to refer to haynes to get an anglke of fitting, then its easy, slip motor end in first, fit mech to door, wind to bottom and replace window.
Note if you have no power to the leccy windows you cannot do this!!!

Oh and the blueline is done nice optional extra to add!!!
Cheers Adam

Post by **redline** » 11 Sep 2005 09:34 am

I have the switches and the loom as far as the dashboard so after fitting the econometer and tow bar I will make this my next project

Post by **340GLT** » 11 Sep 2005 01:40 pm

Oh whoever upgrades to leccy windows, remember to change fuse no 9 to a 25A else it will continually blow, causing you to lose all the gauges in the cluster!!! Trust me this is from personal experience!!!
Cheers Adam

Post by **RandomHero** » 11 Sep 2005 04:03 pm

This picture shows the stand of the mechanism when you want to get it out of the door.

The picture below shows how the mechanism should be to build it in. For the 5-door you need B in the picture.

Mick, can you also tell me how the wires should be for the left (NL drivers side) electric mirror. So which color wire goes to which pin on the switch? My connection isn´t right, so when i push to the left, the mirror goes down or something...