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Hack and remote control civilian cars....

Posted: 19 May 2010 06:36 am
by CBA
Heard it on BBC, it;s possible to hack into a car, from afar, and do things, they said "disable the brakes", and I guess you could also lock the doors... another great reason to stick with "analogue" motoring (minus the renix :wink: ) but then again the renix is near impossible to hack, even with an armoury of tools.

they said it would be "hard" for a member of the public to do it... but they said that about chin and pin...

Re: Hack and remote control civilian cars....

Posted: 19 May 2010 10:05 am
by jtbo
Modern car with automatic transmission, there are no way to shut it off when driving, it won't even allow to switch to neutral, even throttle is operated by computer, if hackers will start to spread some viruses to those cars, imagine the results of all cars all of sudden flooring the pedal, scary :shock:

No computers is better, I know how unreliable software is :lol:

Re: Hack and remote control civilian cars....

Posted: 19 May 2010 02:13 pm
by whiskeyonesix
Scary stuff when you think about it.....

Isn't it true that some new cars have electrically-operated powered steering? That is, there's no mechanical link from the steering wheel to the wheels themselves?
Give it 10 years and cars will be driving themselves ( Toyota already halfway there - not by choice either :twisted: )

Re: Hack and remote control civilian cars....

Posted: 19 May 2010 02:19 pm
by volvosneverdie
whiskeyonesix wrote:Scary stuff when you think about it.....

Isn't it true that some new cars have electrically-operated powered steering? That is, there's no mechanical link from the steering wheel to the wheels themselves?
Give it 10 years and cars will be driving themselves ( Toyota already halfway there - not by choice either :twisted: )
I know the electric Quaylink busses in Newcastle can be started and shut down by satalite from a control centre in Derby.
Thats pretty freaky.

Re: Hack and remote control civilian cars....

Posted: 19 May 2010 03:38 pm
by jtbo
Our grandparents saw world that gained freedom, our parents saw world where freedom were put into close watch, we see world where freedom is gone?

I really dislike idea of self moving cars and any other forced controlling of our lives, it is I who am in control of myself and my machines, not some central control :?

Maybe I'm being just paranoid, after all I keep battery from mobile in separate location from mobile and only when I need it put battery on it :lol:

Re: Hack and remote control civilian cars....

Posted: 19 May 2010 05:56 pm
by CBA
deleted... a tad too far...

Re: Hack and remote control civilian cars....

Posted: 19 May 2010 10:31 pm
by CBA
Ok read the report, seems you need to have acess to the odb port etc to reprogram the car, but it can be in the form of a virus that kicks in, say at 100MPH...

It used to be so long as you got in the seat and started it without an explosion you were ok... times are changing.

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Re: Hack and remote control civilian cars....

Posted: 20 May 2010 12:18 am
by Speedy88
The had self driving cars in the 80s. Nobody liked them. Maybe the new world is ready for such a thing though?

Re: Hack and remote control civilian cars....

Posted: 20 May 2010 12:41 am
by jtbo
At least self driving cars from 80's were lava proof, see? Would like to self parking WV to do that :mrgreen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brOfsNAQfU8

Re: Hack and remote control civilian cars....

Posted: 20 May 2010 05:14 am
by CBA
hmmm... I feel sorry for the guy who had to clean it, pneumatic drill and shotblasting would be the only way.

Re: Hack and remote control civilian cars....

Posted: 20 May 2010 12:54 pm
by Speedy88
I think the self stopping Volvo has a better chance maybe?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNi17YLnZpg

Re: Hack and remote control civilian cars....

Posted: 20 May 2010 12:59 pm
by jtbo
The one that drains battery during the night and jumpstarting causes it to blow circuits so that next time it just forgets to brake ? :D

Re: Hack and remote control civilian cars....

Posted: 20 May 2010 01:58 pm
by jtbo
CBA wrote:hmmm... I feel sorry for the guy who had to clean it, pneumatic drill and shotblasting would be the only way.
Not so likely as it had Pyroclastic lamination to protect from heat, there was also Molecular bonded shell to make it really really strong, it also protected tires too! So I think that they had also some teflon coating so that lava rocks would not stick so well, probably did fell off bythemselves when cooled down :mrgreen:

What were they thinking at 80's when they picked up those names? :roll:

Re: Hack and remote control civilian cars....

Posted: 21 May 2010 06:25 pm
by CBA
it would still solidify "around" things...

Re: Hack and remote control civilian cars....

Posted: 21 May 2010 06:26 pm
by CBA
but fair enough, it is pretty brittle . a good thrash over some speedbumps would probably do it, I forgot about the coating... long time since I watched Knightrider.