2012 Changes to MOT regs.
2012 Changes to MOT regs.
Just a thought chaps,
Part of the new MOT regs "A catalytic convertor fitted as original equipment but missing will be a reason for failure."
1990/91 B14 and B172 had 2way cats fitted as standard (but not at that time required under the regs) few will have survived
a change of exhaust, and they are totally unobtainable now. (though I do have one in stock at say, oh £1,000,000.).
Mac.
Part of the new MOT regs "A catalytic convertor fitted as original equipment but missing will be a reason for failure."
1990/91 B14 and B172 had 2way cats fitted as standard (but not at that time required under the regs) few will have survived
a change of exhaust, and they are totally unobtainable now. (though I do have one in stock at say, oh £1,000,000.).
Mac.
88 5door Redline 1.7 52k - 19 XC60 Momentum Pro D4 AWD 17k
1950 pair of legs that don't work very well.
1950 pair of legs that don't work very well.
Re: 2012 Changes to MOT regs.
Are you sure this isnt from a certain date? i cant imagine really early ones they would be worried about? it also just sounds like an inspection thing, a friendly MOTer may not bother if its pass emissions.

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Re: 2012 Changes to MOT regs.
I'm looking at the manual, and I see the date as no cat required if first used before 1st August 1992. However Directive 2010/48/EU (pdf) (8.2.1.1. Exhaust emissions control equipment) states that "a) Emission control equipment fitted by the manufacturer absent, modified or obviously defective." is a reason for failure.
In Service Exhaust Emission Standards for Road Vehicles - 16th Edition (pdf)
Inspection Manual for Classes 3, 4, 5 and 7 Vehicles (4th Edition) (zipped pdf)
New items in the MOT Inspection Manual have a vertical bar in front of them.
Checking VOSA publication Matters of Testing - Issue 52 - Dec 2011 (pdf), it says under new RfRs "A catalytic converter missing where one was fitted as standard. (Vehicles subject to a full cat test only.)"
Looking at the manual again:
Method of Inspection - "On vehicles that qualify for a full cat emissions test, check the presence of the catalytic converter."
RfR - "A catalytic converter missing where one was fitted as standard"
So Mac, thanks to the UK's very liberal interpretation of Commission Directive 2010/48/EU your cat is worth weigh-in money at best
In Service Exhaust Emission Standards for Road Vehicles - 16th Edition (pdf)
Inspection Manual for Classes 3, 4, 5 and 7 Vehicles (4th Edition) (zipped pdf)
New items in the MOT Inspection Manual have a vertical bar in front of them.
Checking VOSA publication Matters of Testing - Issue 52 - Dec 2011 (pdf), it says under new RfRs "A catalytic converter missing where one was fitted as standard. (Vehicles subject to a full cat test only.)"
Looking at the manual again:
Method of Inspection - "On vehicles that qualify for a full cat emissions test, check the presence of the catalytic converter."
RfR - "A catalytic converter missing where one was fitted as standard"
So Mac, thanks to the UK's very liberal interpretation of Commission Directive 2010/48/EU your cat is worth weigh-in money at best
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Re: 2012 Changes to MOT regs.
Hi mac.
I have a spare also. I thought for a minute there i had won the lotto
Anyone need a cat cheap
Cheers Mark.

I have a spare also. I thought for a minute there i had won the lotto
Anyone need a cat cheap
Cheers Mark.
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Re: 2012 Changes to MOT regs.
To be honest Mac, I think there are other things to worry about, such as:
"a steering lock mechanism missing or fails to engage" That's a nonsense piece of extra work I have to do
Safety my arse.
"a steering lock mechanism missing or fails to engage" That's a nonsense piece of extra work I have to do
Safety my arse.
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Re: 2012 Changes to MOT regs.
Well if he failed me (not that I'd ever have anything that new), he'd have his head shoved in the manual.Evoman wrote:The cat thing seems to be down to the tester discretion.
Re: 2012 Changes to MOT regs.
My car is too old to have a steering lockmacplaxton wrote:To be honest Mac, I think there are other things to worry about, such as:
"a steering lock mechanism missing or fails to engage" That's a nonsense piece of extra work I have to do![]()
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Safety my arse.
'89(G) 340 GLE B172k
'03 S60 D5 SE, '91 (J) MX5, 1954 Cyclemaster
Ex:
'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast
'03 S60 D5 SE, '91 (J) MX5, 1954 Cyclemaster
Ex:
'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast
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Re: 2012 Changes to MOT regs.
Best I sit down and study that section again.Chris_C wrote:My car is too old to have a steering lock
As well as study the NCT manual for here. (Probably has some bits gold-plated for my misery.) Three of my cars maybe exempt, but it still leaves a Pug and a Dizzler to do.
Re: 2012 Changes to MOT regs.
Fake just hasn't had one in all the years I've owned her, 300 steering locks as I'm sure you know just seize in the "I'm not going to do anything" position. Foggy did have a fix at one point, it's just something I've never worried about, the steering lock is so weak I've seen people just snap them on 300's anyway.
'89(G) 340 GLE B172k
'03 S60 D5 SE, '91 (J) MX5, 1954 Cyclemaster
Ex:
'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast
'03 S60 D5 SE, '91 (J) MX5, 1954 Cyclemaster
Ex:
'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast
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Re: 2012 Changes to MOT regs.
Ah yes, a case of RTFMChris_C wrote:My car is too old to have a steering lock
I'll go to SpecSavers.MOT Manual wrote:The inspection of the steering lock only applies to passenger cars with:
• a steering lock fitted as standard by the manufacturer, and
• four or more wheels, and
• not more than 8 passenger seats excluding the driver’s seat, and
• first used on or after 1 September 2001
The check does not apply to quadricycles.
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I love age related rulings 
One of my goals to aim for is to turn up to an MOT test on a "visible smoke only" vehicle!
One of my goals to aim for is to turn up to an MOT test on a "visible smoke only" vehicle!
'89(G) 340 GLE B172k
'03 S60 D5 SE, '91 (J) MX5, 1954 Cyclemaster
Ex:
'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast
'03 S60 D5 SE, '91 (J) MX5, 1954 Cyclemaster
Ex:
'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast
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macplaxton
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Re: 2012 Changes to MOT regs.
That's easy, I remember a tester in the mid-90s doing a CO check on a Reliant Rebel. He was pointing at the 7.0% CO, while I was telling him it was too old for that part of the test.Chris_C wrote:One of my goals to aim for is to turn up to an MOT test on a "visible smoke only" vehicle!
Turning up with a car exempt from seat belts usually have them thumbing through the book for the dates (which are different between cars/goods/three-wheelers).
Or with a pre 1st August 1980 without a chassis/VIN plate.
Or with a pre 1st August 1978 with one rear view mirror.



