1.4 > 1.7 radiator?

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1.4 > 1.7 radiator?

Post by chunk » 28 Nov 2006 12:28 pm

Quick Q, will a 1700cc rad fit my 1400cc???

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Post by IvanAE86 » 28 Nov 2006 06:43 pm

Probably... cant remember anything sticking out there that might interfere.

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Post by ducatievo » 28 Nov 2006 07:34 pm

Can't recall if you might need to do a little chopping for the pipes, I had this when I stuck a new rad in my old 360. Nothing major though.

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Post by chunk » 28 Nov 2006 07:59 pm

Thanks guys, my 1400 is getting a tad warm, so im hoping the thicker 1700 rad will sort that, we can only see though :)

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Post by pettaw » 28 Nov 2006 08:38 pm

It depends what type of 1.4 you've got. The later 1.4s have an identical radiator but the early ones have a smaller one inside the engine bay.

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Post by IvanAE86 » 28 Nov 2006 10:07 pm

Make sure you get the radiator shroud that goes with it while your at it.. (I always get my volvo 300 parts at the wrecking yard), you might need it to fit the bigger radiator.

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Post by tigersport » 06 Dec 2006 06:05 am

I know you've probably done this fitment already, but when I changed my radiator in my old 1989 340 1.4, the only thing I found to be different was the little rubber feet that held the radiator in. Those used to be cheap at the dealer too... because the ones in the car I took my replacement radiator from fell apart.

Also I remember that when it was with the thinner radiator it did get really hot, but the fan kicked in before it got to the red. When the bigger radiator was in it got to the hot end less, but it still got up there a bit in traffic.

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Post by Ronnie » 06 Dec 2006 10:15 pm

Slight threadjack... What about a swirlpot? Anyone tried one of these? Any opinions?

I am needing to get a new rad for the '60 and was planning on fitting a swirl pot too while I'm at it - unless the concensus is that they're a waste of time
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Post by IvanAE86 » 08 Dec 2006 06:35 pm

What's a swirl pot? And why bother if it doesnt run hot.. If it's not broken, dont try to fix it!
The 360 radiator keep the 2l engine cool with ease, the only situation that might require more cooling is a driftcar. Constantly going sideways with little air hitting the radiator straight on while revving it to the limiter tends to overheat cars sometimes.

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Post by Ronnie » 12 Dec 2006 07:18 pm

Sorry, been away for a while due to some kind of V3M freakout which kept on telling me I was "Forbidden". seems to be working again now! :D

A swirl pot sits inline with the radiator intake and spins the coolant so that all air is removed. Less air means better cooling and fewer hot spots in the system. I've had 360's overheat, two different cars, both on hot days on very hard runs. Anything that makes the system more efficent will put less strain on components and lead to longer life. A good enough reason to fit one in my book.

Also, the drifters need all the cooling help they can get with their low speed, high revs application. (Not that I'm a drifter)
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Post by pettaw » 12 Dec 2006 09:48 pm

I towed a caravan using full throttle at 3,500 RPMS struggling up a hill for over 30 seconds and not even a sign of the temperature going up. It was last weekend though, when the weather was cold. Other things like exhaust mounting rubbers started to smell a bit though ;)

I would suspect your radiators were starting to get less efficient, either through partial blockage or coating of the insides with scale. In the height of summer, my 360 refused to even warm up properly until I changed the faulty thermostat.

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Post by jimf671 » 23 Dec 2006 09:33 pm

1.7 radiators are sh1t.

I fitted a 360 rad in my old 340. Had to do a fair amount of soldering and entertaining copper-craft but at least it didnt corrode away by the end of the year!

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Post by pettaw » 23 Dec 2006 10:06 pm

no, your 1.7 radiator was sh*t. When we changed ours for a proper new one, the car would struggle to warm enough to run without choke, even in the height of summer.

Made me regret not spending the extra ten quid on a new thermostat.

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