Power Steering on 340 DL - 1.4

Post by **D24Tdavew** » 07 Jun 2005 12:03 am

I wish to confirm that a 360 Power Steering Rack will fit in place of the manual steering rack, in terms of bolt positions and any other factors such as lower steering column connection.

Regards

D24Tdavew

Post by **srtames** » 07 Jun 2005 01:12 pm

You also need space and correct pulleys for the hydraulic pump.
Do you really need power steering ? Try greasing the steering rack and tyres at 30 psi . The 340 steering should be quite light once you move . Turning the wheels when stationary is not good for tyres or steering parts.

regards, Steve

Post by **Vario Si** » 07 Jun 2005 08:07 pm

Apparently it's been proven that it's not really true that it damages the tyres. although yes it can and does damage steering.

Simon

Post by MJ » 08 Jun 2005 11:39 pm

How can turning wheels when stationary not rub tread off

I'll stick to non power steering

Post by **D24Tdavew** » 10 Jun 2005 12:02 am

Thanks all.

Do I take it that a 360 Power steering rack WILL fit for definite ?

The reason for the question is that I obtained a rack supposedly from a 360 via a Volvo dismantler last September.

I have only just got time to fit it, and the mounting holes are miles off.

It was this that prompted the question.

Personally I think the steering is heavy, and I agree that when you are in motion it is manageable , but sooner or later you have to rotate the wheel at low speeds or when stopped such as when reversing into a parking spot which is when the problem starts. Its my daughters car anyway and wieighlifting is not her sport.

The pump I have is an easy fit, so that is not the problem.

Regards

Dave
D24Tdavew

Post by **daffodil** » 10 Jun 2005 05:34 pm

hi i have fitted power steering to a 1.7 which is the more difficult 1 to do
the power rack should fit on using the same mounting holel
the rack should also have a alloy bracket bolted to it on the drivers side
if this did not come with the rack this could be where your problem lies
cheers martin

Post by **Vario Si** » 11 Jun 2005 04:54 pm

MJ wrote:How can turning wheels when stationary not rub tread off

...just think of how much more stress tyres are under driving, especially at speed and on some surfaces and things...

If your tyres couldnt survive simply turning your wheels when stationary without being damaged, they wouldnt be able to handle driving stress!

Post by MJ » 14 Jun 2005 10:02 pm

I remember when the Formula 1 was on a week or two ago, and in the few minutes I watched they were talking about tyre wear. They said that the tyres don't wear out when cornering, but they do when the breaks lock.

When you turn the wheels at stationary they are rubbing a lot.

Just imagine that you have a rubber (pencil errasor thing

) thats shaped like a polo with a hole in the middle. If you put a pencil through the middle and roll it along the table in a circle, I dobt that any of the rubber would be damaged. Now if you hold the rubber between you finders and turn it on the desk, like car wheels when the car is still, I expect theat some of the rubber will come off

Post by **5lab** » 14 Jun 2005 10:18 pm

your right. tyres do wear naturally just by accellerating, breaking and cornering (hense why f1 tyres go even if they dont lock up), but they wear slowly. drysteering puts a lot of strain on the steering components and wears the tyres. dont do it!

Post by **Vario Si** » 14 Jun 2005 10:45 pm

I can't remember exactly what I read, but I guess we all read duff info and take it as fact! Maybe it just highlighted it wasn't as drastic as people thought, or something, I have a terrible memory!

Simon

Post by MJ » 15 Jun 2005 02:49 pm

Yeah, I mean doing it once isn't going to ruin a new pair of tyres, but it's not a good habit

I think that people who never experience a car without powersteering don't realise the forces at work. I'm not reffering to anyone, just generally

Post by **Chris_C** » 31 Jul 2005 09:30 pm

Whats the easiest way to put the pump on the 1.4? Is it a case of getting a different pump, or can you put that one on. And how do you hook another belt up to the crank?

Post by **daffodil** » 01 Aug 2005 03:47 pm

the pump bolts onto the alternator adjusting
bracket and sits below the alternator
the crank pulley looks like an extra pulley has been welded on

Post by **Chris_C** » 01 Aug 2005 06:13 pm

Have you ever fitted the extra pully on a 1.4 Daffodil? I'm sure if I had a proper look all would become clear, but is it as simple as going to th escrappy, finding another 1.4, nicking the pulley, and using some longer bolts to bolt both pulleys on? (assuming the pulleys do bolt on that is).

Post by **daffodil** » 01 Aug 2005 09:03 pm

you could always see if volvo list the pulley for the pas
if you look at your pulley you will find that it sticks out from the timing cover quite a lot....the power steering is driven off from behind the alternator belt....so i presume that another pulley was welded to the back off the origonal