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Racing
Posted: 24 Apr 2007 04:14 pm
by themikester340
Hi guys. im a m8 of shimon340. im the one with the troublesome 340dl. im just wondering, once its fixed, wot r the chance of racing a 1.2 vauxhall corsa and winning. the guy keeps saying he cn beat me blind. my cars a 1.4.
Posted: 24 Apr 2007 04:45 pm
by IvanAE86
I'd give the vauxhall the benefit of the doubt here.. but you might make a chance if you strip it, variomatic might help out too. Seriously though, racing 1.4 and 1.2 econoboxes is a bit sad.. you might want to be the bigger man here and just not bother with racing him at all. Most newer cars (probably my moms 0.9 liter daihatsu as well) will beat an old heavy 1.4 car easily, dunno about the vauxhall, but it's got the advantage on weight.
Posted: 24 Apr 2007 06:28 pm
by redline
my sons 1.2 corsa was a 16 valve and went like a rocket,
I would say the 1.4 volvo would be left eating its exhaust smoke
Posted: 24 Apr 2007 06:40 pm
by SteveP
redline wrote:my sons 1.2 corsa was a 16 valve and went like a rocket,
Twinportz0rz lolz
If its an early Corsa, I'd say you're in with a chance...
Posted: 24 Apr 2007 07:50 pm
by Ali
Been there done that

My mate had a Corsa B 1.2 16v and unfortunately they are quite nippy little buggers! Tbh you'll be pretty damn close but he'll just have the edge, catch him off guard or from standstill as you'll have the better launch

He won't have it by a long way and as Ivan says its still racing 70bhp cars...(altho I shouldn't really comment as I did the same and still do now, they just don't see 170brake coming

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edit: As Ivan said aswell pulling the rear seats out might make a noticeable difference, that and an air filter on mine made a difference (well when the carb wasn't freezing anyway lol)
Posted: 25 Apr 2007 03:52 am
by jtbo
Get D24 and you will see how funny all this talk about racing is, 20 seconds to 0-100kph or something like that
There is just no point trying to accelerate fast, it will just smoke bit more and make louder noise, when I leave intersection often car behind me is going to overtake as 0-40kph takes already almost 10 seconds and 3 gears
Acceleration speed is meaningless, 1/4 mile trap speed and time around corners are only things that matter

Posted: 26 Apr 2007 12:11 pm
by themikester340
Hmm. im interested in dumping in a 2.3t. u think i'd have a chance to beat him then

Posted: 26 Apr 2007 12:12 pm
by themikester340
oh yes his cars an "L" reg. i think its 8v
Posted: 26 Apr 2007 12:23 pm
by stealthstylz
It should beat an 8v but it will be fairly close.
Matt
Posted: 26 Apr 2007 01:05 pm
by germ
yeah agaist 8v should be close but take all seats out that arent needed

and any thing eles like bottles and other easy to move items
also the amount of petrol in the tank can make a differnce.
my 1.7 would easily whip a corsas ass...... 1.4's seam very much differnt and slower
worth a try and what ever its fun
Cheers
will
Posted: 26 Apr 2007 01:54 pm
by Ali
2.3 isn't an easy swap as its 340 so renault engined, you'd be better going 440/460/480 turbo or Renault 19 1.8 16v or clio williams, i'd say you'll have it if its a 8v

Posted: 26 Apr 2007 02:00 pm
by MJ
Well what I hear from Foggy, 1.4's are actually very quick up to 40 or so, almost as quick as a 2.0.
And mikester, It's not going to be too easy to fit a 2.3 to a 340 due to 340 taking Renault engines. It'd be much easier to fit a Renault 1.8 16v, or get a 360 and put the 2.3 in that
EDIT: Ah, you just beat me to it Ali

Posted: 27 Apr 2007 12:44 am
by Chris_C
Yeah, 1.4's rock, until 3rd gear speeds! Very nippy for what they are.
Posted: 27 Apr 2007 08:05 pm
by Carl
Chris mate, you need to get a go in something that isn't a 300!!! I've never driven a nippy one!
Posted: 27 Apr 2007 08:57 pm
by MJ
Hmm yes, Chris's reference cars include the S**ity Rover :/
Having said that the 1.7 is fairly nippy at lower speeds (I've never driven a 1.4). Comparing it to a 2.5 850 (170ish hp) it doesn't feel too slow, although it has a strong weight advantage. It may also be due to the fact that I drive very gently at under 3k rpm, and the 1.7 has it's power lower down?
Having said that, if you floor it at speed there's no comparison. At 60 in the 1.7 in 5th floor it and nothing really happens. do the same in the 850, even at 75 or 80, and you can feel the acceleration
