New here

Post by **Bello** » 05 May 2007 04:49 pm

Hi all, new here and just thought i'd pop a hello post up

I'm 30 from norfolk and have a 340 that i'm looking at slowly building into something to embarrass people on track and drift days with lol

Here's a piccy

Post by **meintag** » 05 May 2007 05:06 pm

wow ! I like very much the stance of your 340

welcome to the forum !!

Post by **Bello** » 05 May 2007 05:12 pm

meintag wrote:wow ! I like very much the stance of your 340

welcome to the forum !!

Thanks

Post by **stealthstylz** » 05 May 2007 07:11 pm

Looks very cool.

Matt

Post by **IvanS.** » 05 May 2007 08:26 pm

Very nice indeed.

Post by **foggyjames** » 05 May 2007 09:12 pm

I think if I see another set of tiny wheels on a 300, I might cry....but I like your style otherwise. What are your plans for increasing the embarrassment potential?

cheers

James

Post by **bennett** » 05 May 2007 09:36 pm

welcome. looks great what are your plans?
thanks lee

Post by **Bello** » 06 May 2007 09:36 am

Thanks

I do love the wheels but when there's a bit more power i'll go for some 14" possibly 8j, power wise i'm going to do the 1.8 16v conversion or maybe the newer clio 172 engine if money allows.

Post by **Chris_C** » 06 May 2007 11:25 am

Theres a snapped cambelt 172 on ebay for pittance

Post by **340GLT** » 06 May 2007 03:30 pm

Aha another member to join the 16v club then???
Looking good mate what other mods are done to the car?
Adam

Post by **Bello** » 06 May 2007 05:27 pm

340GLT wrote:Aha another member to join the 16v club then???
Looking good mate what other mods are done to the car?
Adam

Yep definately going to be n/a 16v

Thanks, i can't take credit for any of the previous work on the car as i bought it like this last sunday but it has the following...

Welded diff
2x corbeau bucket seats
drivers 4 point harness, passengers 3 point harness
New gas shocks alround
cut front springs and 2" lowering blocks at the rear
13" 7j minilites, they look somewhere around 0 - +10 offset (nice dish)
Stripped inside including all sound deadening removed but still retaining headlining and door cards.

I've got a clio 1.8 16v engine, loom, ecu, rad etc all sitting here waiting to go in but i just haven't got any spare time to fit it for the next few months as i'm doing a bit of a garden restyle

lol

Chris_C wrote:Theres a snapped cambelt 172 on ebay for pittance

I saw that and almost bid but it looked a bit too much like hard work when i weighed everything up

Post by **stealthstylz** » 06 May 2007 07:00 pm

How much does a stripped 340 weigh? My old clio weighed 850kg and with the more or less standard 1.8 went high 14s quarter mile which isnt exactly rapid. They have no torque at all.

Matt

Post by **Bello** » 06 May 2007 07:19 pm

stealthstylz wrote:How much does a stripped 340 weigh? My old clio weighed 850kg and with the more or less standard 1.8 went high 14s quarter mile which isnt exactly rapid. They have no torque at all.

Matt

Got to be around 950kgs with fuel/oil etc.

Torque isn't everything round a track though, power to weight, a few suspension mods and a nice revvy engine with a wideish powerband can do lots.
when i used to have a trackday r32 gtr all stripped out with around 400bhp i used to regually get whooped around snetterton and cadwell by pug 205s, r5 gtts, clios etc purely as they could carry silly corner speed and brake sooooo late whilst i'd just go flying by on the straight but slide and drift around in the corners.

Post by **foggyjames** » 07 May 2007 03:09 am

Kerb weight for a 1.4 3dr is ~950kg. 1.7 3dr is just a shade under the tonne, I think.

High 14s is pretty respectable for something that's not really a performance car as such, especially FWD - it always amazes me just how slow most 'normal' cars run at the drag strip. A stock 360 GLT will run a 18.4 or so, for reference. With 140bhp, 1150kg, unsuitable gearing and not much traction until 3rd, I ran a 17.0 @ 81. That's a trap speed for a mid 16 at least, plus there's a lot more to come from the engine.

The fastest Tbrick at the Pod so far ran a 14.9 @ 90 (edit: might have been 90-something, actually), beating an RX7...and again with traction problems. We only head down there once a year or so, and usually the faster cars are in pieces, and the track is slippery as hell. When we went in February, an Astra VXR was still doing about 10mph halfway down the track. Crazy lack of grip. A course official told us, off the record, that it was the first session since it was resurfaced. Turbo Skylines were running 15s. Kind of a waste of money. We didn't have any properly fast cars there. One chap pulled a mid 15 from his 940, while Lincoln-chum Martin's 940 just broke into the 16s, beating an Astra GTE in the process. If we were actually fast, it might not be so embarrassing...

Traction seems to be our biggest problem. I've only been once since upping the power, and the track was slippery (notice a theme here...autumn and spring seem bad times to go), but I was pulling 3s 60 foots, even with RWD, 20psi in the tyres, and gently lifting at 2krpm. I'd be interested to hear how you got around this Matt - the Saxo and Clio guys may not make *that* much power, but they sure as hell make use of it. Slicks? LSDs?

cheers

James

Post by **stealthstylz** » 07 May 2007 01:48 pm

My Clio was doing 2.1 - 2.3 60 foots. No LSD, and the tyres were Michelin Pilots with about 1mm of tread left.

Fastest n/a clio at the moment is running 13.0s with ~230bhp.

I think the major problem with launching 360s is the leaf springs. The car doesn't seem to "dig in" at all when you launch the back stays pretty level. If you converted to a 5 link and coilovers you could do so much more.

Some good tips here

http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/techa ... ion_times/

Basically you need to make the car squat off the line to transfer all the weight onto the rear wheels.

Matt