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Box Junction cameras

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Just a note. Got caught being in a box junction by one of Ken's lovely CCTV cameras. I knew it was there and was just stupid and got caught in traffic. Got a lovely letter in the post this morning with pretty pictures of my car stuck there. The bus almost obscured my numberplate but not quite enough unfortunately :?

Anyhoo it was a fair cop and I've paid up....luckily no points, but just beware. A lot of bus lanes are now monitored with CCTV cameras too. Much less visible than speed cameras, they're just a small grey box on top of either a tall grey or sometimes green pole.

Oh btw the fine was 100 quid, but 50 if you pay within 2 weeks.
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Blimin cameras everywhere, at least you didn't get points.

Pete, can I borrow your 12 bore :P Love to see one of Kens cams full of holes :twisted:
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Unlucky mate. Can't do anything in these modern times without being on CCTV.

LOL! MJ, round our way someone went one better. After getting caught on a GATSO camera, they went back, dragged it out with a tractor, towed it a mile or two and torched it! The rumour was, there was no fillm in it anyway! I cannot condone such behaviour though! :wink:

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there are so many cameras everywhere that I'm surprised people have the time to watch them... and then who's going to watch the watchers?
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ajdubas wrote:there are so many cameras everywhere that I'm surprised people have the time to watch them...
They don't have to - they've got software for that. At first it was just number plates, but now they have reliable facial recognition systems, and I've read that it might be possible to also recognise gait - the way that you move.

All of this can be cross referenced with triangulated mobile phone data and use of credit cards to track an individual in most environments. It would also be very interesting to know what kind of resolution military spy sathellites are capable of these days. I remember in the 80's that they were said to be able to read a newspaper headline on a good day - god knows what they can do now.

I'm not being paranoid, the technology is out there. :P
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Ronnie wrote:and I've read that it might be possible to also recognise gait - the way that you move.
It is, yup. Although I think at the moment the systems only work reliably in fairly controlled circumstances. (There's a load of people here at Soton do a lot of biometrics stuff)
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Just look at Google maps, and the satalite images available there, where you can even make out peoples cars. If that's publicly available, what do governments have access to!

I like the security that things like CCTV give, but these days there seems to be too much recording, and linking of databases, and all sorts of stuff.

BTW, although I never condone damaging speed cameras, a Top Gear Top Tip is that they have a small hole somewhere, and that you can use that to fill them with builders expandable foam till they pop open :D
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What next A radio article just now suggested a carbon usage credit card issued to everybody -all carbon usage at home /travel/shopping? monitored but would be a financial offset between different levels of usage Wouldn't this lead to more monitoring and measuring?

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As Nick said, a lot of gait recorgnition stuff gets done in our department... it works scarily well. Main use that it's hopefully going into is airport security, so at least has a good use.

Facial recognition is no where near as good as people think, ear recognition however... thing is someone needs to offer up the ear for a still picture, which is where gait wins hands down. As to mobile phones and credit cards, thats been around for ages. I worked for Vodaphone 7/8 years ago, before they were really common, and remember the guy showing me how all this stuff in teh movies is a load of rubbish, that you couldn't do this (he did something) or this (did something else) and 20 secs later we had a street map on the screen with us, and his mobile. That was about 200m accurate then, on old mobile phone frequencies and transmitters. Credit cards have been going even longer than that, and they only inroduced shop loyalty cards to get teh people who used to pay cash ;)

As to the defense side, just be glad that we still lead in it despite a lot of activists best efforts (sorry, that really winds me up) I'm much happier knowing that it's our guys (and has been influenced ever so slightly by me :P) who are inventing the good defense stuff and it does come with a made in *insert random country here* sticker on it. I know I want our country to stay in one piece ;)

Much easier to suss out how to not circumvent the proceedures, but how to just make life hard enough that you get a couple of hours head start ;)
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