new tyres, snow...

[pyro]

Hey all
just noticed i need a new set of front tyres on the 360, just wondering what i shoul go for?
unfortunatly cheap is a must, im running remoulds on the back, the fronts are anceint michelins. im looking for something a bit 'nobblier' or aggressive so i can swap the new fronts onto the back...

any ideas, preferences, id prefer some winter tyres for her so yea recommendations!?

Ben

[jtbo]

How cheap?

Those Conti TS810 tyres were not that bad price when I did check prices of those at UK, imo.

[trabitom99]

I've read mixing winter and summer tyres is not such a good idea, as you're limited to the "worst" or slippiest axle. So even if you put brand new winter tyres on the back for better traction you'll still be slipping all over the place when you brake, and understeer round corners.

How much are a set of remoulded winter tyres over there? Or used ones?

Tom

[pettaw]

Winter tyres are so rare over here that I wouldn't think you could get remoulds. When I went to get mine the tyre place had to order them in specially. They did say 'are you sure mate? these are snow tyres' but there are a lot of Polish round here that fit them to their cars when they drive home because in many parts of continental Europe you have to have them certain months of the year.

[trabitom99]

In Germany there was a vague law passed two years ago against "driving with the improper equipment for the weather conditions". That can mean driving with not enough antifreeze in the washer fluid, or driving with summer tyres on snow. The penalties are very mild ... as long as you don't have an accident. Then the insurance doesn't pay - that's what finally convinced me to get a set two years ago. With "All weather" tyres (M+S but no snowflake) you're on the safe side on the legal and insurance side of things, but then you have rubber which is "not really that good" in the summer and not great in the winter either.

The tyre companies would have you believe that winter tyres are better than summer ones at any temp under 6°C, and that they should be fitted from October till March / April. I'm not totally convinced about that, in that period there are loads of days when temps are over 6°C, in which case I'd be better on summer ones ...

Tom

[jtbo]

In Germany there was a vague law passed two years ago against "driving with the improper equipment for the weather conditions". That can mean driving with not enough antifreeze in the washer fluid, or driving with summer tyres on snow. The penalties are very mild ... as long as you don't have an accident. Then the insurance doesn't pay - that's what finally convinced me to get a set two years ago. With "All weather" tyres (M+S but no snowflake) you're on the safe side on the legal and insurance side of things, but then you have rubber which is "not really that good" in the summer and not great in the winter either.

The tyre companies would have you believe that winter tyres are better than summer ones at any temp under 6°C, and that they should be fitted from October till March / April. I'm not totally convinced about that, in that period there are loads of days when temps are over 6°C, in which case I'd be better on summer ones ...

Tom

I did use my very soft compound winter tyres at summer, they say they won't work at all and especially at rain they would be dangerous. Well, could not see problems, sure they were tad soft and they perhaps did not had very good grip when raining, but they did worked rather well for normal driving.

For some emergency situation I would probably been in deep trouble, car was not in whole summer very well planted to ground so to say.

But in cold temps, around 0C summer tyres do get same problems their rubber compund turns rather hard due to temperature and they are loosing lot of grip, it is surely usable in normal driving, but loss of grip is possible to be felt at roundabouts and hard braking. However I have not had very pro summer tyres as I don't really see the point in that, summer time there is so huge amount of grip, that I can do just fine with my winter tyres, they will stop the car lot faster than at winter.

However some winter tyres wear out really quick at summer, specially if you drive on those rails where everyone else is driving as there tarmac is rougher. I drive side of that and over 50 000km driven with my Conti 5 tyres already, still they grip very well and 6-7mm thread left. They advertise this to be first their wither tyres that will maintain good grip features until last mm of thread. Only around 90 euros / each

[trabitom99]

However some winter tyres wear out really quick at summer

Yes, I've heard that too from people who drive all year round with their winter tyres on ... Not a problem, safety-wise but you end up replacing your tyres more.

Tom

[jtbo]

However some winter tyres wear out really quick at summer

Yes, I've heard that too from people who drive all year round with their winter tyres on ... Not a problem, safety-wise but you end up replacing your tyres more.

Tom

Here winter tyres used only at winter often last for 20 000 - 30 000km, I except to double that with ease, oh wait, I almost have already

If I can use these tyres for 80 000 to 90 000km then they have lasted as long as summer + winter tyre sets. However currently I'm not gaining many km so it can be that I replace whole car before that comes.

I was already buying new tires after summer as I did measure only 3mm thread from these, but it was actually that there was sand in thread as later measurements did reveal how much thread was left in reality. I'm very impressed by these tires and cost was not double compared to rest of good winter tyres, around same prices.

I drove only month or so with french crap with summer tyres, then I did bought these, never before I have had tyres lasting so long under the car, so I can see now that there are exceptions to that rule of winter tyres wearing out fast at summer.

[pyro]

well ive come by a set of part used at tyres.
or what i think are all terrains, seem pretty 'nobbly' and muchos improvement in steering in teh snow so far! just want to swap the front and rears round now, shame my driveway is under a foot of snow, im loathed to kneel down in it with a breaker bar lol!

Ben

[jtbo]

Get something like this and your driveway is cleaned in no time
http://www.puuilo.fi/cat/product_details.php?p=1583

[monka]

i wouldnt bother tbh, all this snow will be gone soon anyway and you'll need normal tyres, lol. i have the glorious nankangs on the back of mine, got stuck 4 times last night, each time i managed to get out of the situation with no assistance. lol. i'm loving my car in this weather.

[pyro]

just swaped front and rear wheels over, and it turns otu they are 'pirreli winter-sport 180' or somthing like that. i needed to do it as ive a run to hull tomorrow through some back roads and needed somthing not radial for a hint of traction!




thanks - Ben

[sven360]

Look good to me.
Weather man says it'll get worse before it gets better,so could be a shrewd purchase.

Nice logs as well.

[volvosneverdie]

Nice logs as well.

Such a log pervert.

What does Sven say to a woman chopping logs Topless?

Woah, nice logs.

[jtbo]

If transportation would be anything reasonable you could get all of my old winter tyres, they are crap, but some better than summer tyres, well that one set is not and local authorities might have something to say about those studs